Why A Gaza Genocide Is Necessary (Public Board)

by FSK, Friday, November 10, 2023, 19:06 (31 days ago)

Under the current rules, the offer Gaza's leaders have is:

Make peace with Israel or else ... You get to siphon billions off foreign aid money. The foreign aid money continues as long as you attack Israel every few years.

When you phrase it that way, peace sounds like a pretty lousy deal for Gaza's leaders.

If genocide was seriously on the table as an option, the offer would be:

Make peace with Israel or else ... we wipe out all of them and your cash cow is gone.

Now taking the peace deal sounds like a better offer.

The fact that Israel isn't going to genocide Gaza gives them a weak bargaining position, which means the other side has no reason to make any meaningful concessions.

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And it will be a worldwide disaster for "Jewry"

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Friday, November 10, 2023, 19:49 (31 days ago) @ FSK

We're already seeing the blowback, dude.

In my whitebread once rural character cracker townlet, pink haired commie assholes were demonstrating on behalf of Gaza last week and a Jewish congressman who had a town hall scheduled decided to cancel the event.

And a very, very mild Youtuber I watch occasionally who does prepping content with no politics or religiosity (most prepper channels are inordinately Jesusy and born again centric) has announced that he and his family have been targeted constantly with death and violence threats for several weeks because they are Jewish.

This amounts to painting a target on the back of every Jew everywhere.

The Problem Is Rampant Lawlessness

by FSK, Friday, November 10, 2023, 23:17 (30 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

The US has a problem where left-wing activists can commit political violence and get away with it. There was an old Jewish man killed with a megaphone a few days ago. The killer will likely get away with it. That a problem for the USA and other Western countries, and isn't really Israel's problem.

It's not a logical argument. "Israel's government did something bad. Therefore, it's open season to assault Jews who don't live in Israel." If anything, that makes a stronger logical argument for Israel's existence, as a safe country for Jews. It also would make Israel's government stronger as more Jews are forced to flee there for their own safety.

Most Western countries are already experiencing maximum violence against Jews. It's hard to imagine it getting worse. The criminals are already doing the maximum of what they think they can get away with.

I don't see violence against non-Israel Jews getting much worse, if Israel genocides Gaza. We're already at peak Nazi. In just a few years, the extreme left has flipped from "Punch a Nazi!" to "Punch a Jew!"

Suppose you have two groups of people. Group A are logical and rational. Group B are religious fanatics who teach their followers to have as many children as possible and murder members of Group A. Group B also teaches their followers that, when they're in a country controlled by Group A, to obey and pretend to be model citizens until they're a majority, at which point they have a coup and slaughter Group A.

If Group A adopts a policy of religious freedom for Group B, allows Group B to move to their countries, adopts a policy of responsible families of 2-3 children each, and adopts a policy that everyone gets enough food and nobody dies a violent death, that just guarantees that Group B will take over eventually. If Group A also follows democracy, that means Group B will just make their religion the law once they're a majority.

The only way that Group A can survive without being overrun by Group B is if they periodically kill a huge chunk of Group B. If Group A refuses to do this, they only guarantee their own demise eventually. The only other way Group A can survive is if they ruthlessly control their territory and forbid Group B from entering.

If you follow logic, you unfortunately are sometimes forced to kill an enemy who swears they will kill you once they have the opportunity. If you follow emotions and ignore logic, then you're just guaranteeing your own demise eventually.

If "Minimizing Casualties" Leads To Blowback, Why Bother?

by FSK, Friday, November 10, 2023, 23:51 (30 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

You should agree that Israel is putting max effort into minimizing non-Hamas casualties, short of actually giving a ceasefire which lets Hamas win.

If "minimizing casualties" is leading to blowback against Jews all over the world, why not just get it over with and go for 100% kill? Trying to minimize casualties is causing the war to drag out for months, and daily negative coverage. Carpet bombing Gaza into rubble and picking off the survivors will lead to an outcry once, but then in a few days the news cycle will move on to something else.

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