(Pope comments controversy) Trump be like...
by FSK, Tuesday, April 14, 2026, 19:34 (45 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
The Pope did something actually offensive. He went to a memorial honoring Muslims who killed Christians. There is zero excuse for a Christian religious leader to be doing that.
(Pope comments controversy) Trump be like...
by Cornpop Sutton
, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Tuesday, April 14, 2026, 20:46 (45 days ago) @ FSK
I've gotten numb from the news cycle. Care to cite at least the city or name associated with the incident?
(Pope comments controversy) Trump be like...
by FSK, Tuesday, April 14, 2026, 21:36 (45 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
(Pope comments controversy) Trump be like...
by JoFrance, Wednesday, April 15, 2026, 19:03 (44 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
Pope Leo is yet another left wing activist pope just like Pope Francis. Iran's president loved when he attacked Trump.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/04/you-cant-make-this-up-irans-radical-muslim/
IMO - why say anything?
by Cornpop Sutton
, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Wednesday, April 15, 2026, 19:22 (44 days ago) @ JoFrance
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Wednesday, April 15, 2026, 19:26
I haven't paid much attention to the new Pope. I'm not Catholic, I could care less.
In general it seems like when anyone that seems to have sympathies for that other team catches Trump's attention, he declares open season.
Regardless of the pope's wokeness, everything Trump has said against him sounds outright fucking retarded. Trump "accuses" the pope of being weak on foreign relations. The pope isn't even supposed to be political, and certainly no pope will come out and declare that a war is good and righteous.
Since Catholicism seems to be expanding in the US, Trump really picked a stupid hill to die on. It would have been far more sensible to say that the Pope is just being the Pope and dismiss it.
Personally I believe Trump has changed. He seems to have had a stroke or otherwise has had some adverse changes that are affecting his behavior. Lack of impulse control, defensiveness when challenged, hypersensitivity, etc. are signatures of age related cognitive decline. Yeah, he's always had these behaviors but they've stepped up a league.
I discount everything 100% that Trump says now. He spews random noise now and aligns with globalist causes that harm America.
It takes an abject lack of realism and common sense at this point to say that he's as effective as ever or to blithely quote Trump as though he's speaking actual truth. If I want to listen to stuff like that I'll watch Fox News (and I don't.) Virtually everything Trump writes or says now is misdirection.
IMO - why say anything?
by JoFrance, Thursday, April 16, 2026, 19:45 (43 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
I think the pope should've stayed out of the picture. I'm not Catholic either, but it would've been better if he didn't get involved. The pope shouldn't be political, but he is. He is weak on foreign relations. He has plenty of criticism of Trump but none for Iran's leaders that have killed thousands of innocent citizens of their country for protesting. Pope Leo has TDS.
Catholics still support what Trump is doing regardless of what Pope Leo thinks. There is no hill to die on here for Trump. The war in Iran will be over soon and the world will be rid of the nuclear bully of the Middle East.
Trump doesn't have cognitive decline at all. He just has a big mouth without a filter. He's a counter-puncher. You hit him and he'll hit you back 10 times harder. Some of his statements are cringeworthy, but what would you be saying if you were constantly attacked from all sides for 10 years now? The gloves are off.
Trump had the courage to take care of the Iran problem and he's winning. The strategy he employed in the Strait of Hormuz is working. Iran is the only country blocked from using it now and they're feeling real economic pain. He will get what he wants in the end, which is for Iran to give the US its existing nuclear material and for them to give up their future nuclear weapon ambitions.
Maybe Trump doesn't communicate well at times, but in the end this will be a great thing for the world.
IMO - why say anything?
by IT guy, Thursday, April 16, 2026, 23:57 (42 days ago) @ JoFrance
The Pope is from Chicago, just like Obama. Perhaps Trump sees a connection? Anyone remotely connected to Obama (or Biden) gets under his skin by default. He even took credit for Leo becoming Pope by saying "it happened because I was President".
It's hilarious (and petty at the same time) that Trump mentioned inviting the Pope's brother to the White House and saying that he's MAGA.
IMO - why say anything?
by Cornpop Sutton
, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Friday, April 17, 2026, 01:02 (42 days ago) @ IT guy
^ Good amusing tangent on Obama.
Anything you hear out of Chicago is that the region is corrupt AF.
Rep to Jo...
by Cornpop Sutton
, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Friday, April 17, 2026, 01:00 (42 days ago) @ JoFrance
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Friday, April 17, 2026, 01:53
I think the pope should've stayed out of the picture. I'm not Catholic either, but it would've been better if he didn't get involved. The pope shouldn't be political, but he is.
The Pope's office is leader of Catholics worldwide. Regardless which side he leans into he's practically obliged to comment on large scale life and death events in some way. I'm not Catholic, could care less, but the church *expects* his comments.
Do a critical thinking check: is a POPE going to publicly approve of ANY war?
He is weak on foreign relations.
Non sequitor. How in the fuck is the Pope supposed to have expertise in foreign relations? He's not a congressman or colonel.
He has plenty of criticism of Trump but none for Iran's leaders that have killed thousands of innocent citizens of their country for protesting. Pope Leo has TDS.
He's a dipshit from Chicago, so sure, I can see that. First thing you've written that I agree with.
Catholics still support what Trump is doing regardless of what Pope Leo thinks.
How do you know that in particular? Is there a poll? You assume a lot.
Edit: Oh, wait, there IS a poll...
https://x.com/KevinRobertsTX/status/2044781870072627226
Oops.
There is no hill to die on here for Trump.
It is irrelevant to the US what the pope says so Trump's words were unnecessary.
The war in Iran will be over soon
So you see the future, I see. That is a lapse of critical thinking to assume ANY particular outcome. Yeah, I see reporting like that. From fart sniffing Fox News. Other sources say different.
and the world will be rid of the nuclear bully of the Middle East.
Iran has bleated death to the US since 1979. I was there, I sat in the odd/even rationed gas lines that summer....
Trump doesn't have cognitive decline at all.
Even friendly right leaning commentators and quite a few physicians disagree. You give a big fat pass to his unhingement in the last couple of months.
He just has a big mouth without a filter. He's a counter-puncher. You hit him and he'll hit you back 10 times harder. Some of his statements are cringeworthy, but what would you be saying if you were constantly attacked from all sides for 10 years now? The gloves are off.
Even if Trump is playing with a full deck, which I am uncertain about, Trump cries wolf so often that what comes out of his mouth now is just static. And he is far more unhinged than he ever was. I know, you just don't see it, I see it clearly that he's much worse than ever.
Trump had the courage to take care of the Iran problem
It doesn't require personal courage for a lame duck president to deploy an unnecessary unpopular war. It just takes ignoring his base and every campaign promise he made. As well as the half of the room that aren't neocons.
and he's winning.
Just he says so. ALL the time. Even while negotiating. If we're winning why are we negotiating? If the US is winning WHY DOES THE ADMINISTRATION SAY CONSTANTLY WE'RE WINNING?
The strategy he employed in the Strait of Hormuz is working.
That's what I meant about the news cycle. I have no idea who is blockading what. It's easy to find contradictions to what you're saying.
Iran is the only country blocked from using it now and they're feeling real economic pain.
I agree they have to feel economic pain but because the news coverage is so muddled I have no idea what their leverage is, if any.
He will get what he wants in the end, which is for Iran to give the US its existing nuclear material and for them to give up their future nuclear weapon ambitions.
You say, again. You fall into this partisan trap of labeling anything Iran does like it's a unique pathology. Iran is a sovereign nation. North Korea has a nuke and we aren't starting a war there. Neither Saddam nor Qadaffi had nukes, Iraq and Libya both fell, and both leaders are deposed and dead. If Iran is smart they will keep their nuclear weapon program active. Yes, I said it.
Yes, ideally Iran would voluntarily shut down uranium enrichment and would hand over its stockpiles. In reality it actually makes no sense for them to do so.
Maybe Trump doesn't communicate well at times, but in the end this will be a great thing for the world.
As far as a great thing for the world - yes, now the US has set the precedent that a stronger nation can invade a weaker nation for the correct reasons. Good signal to China too.
I don't see one commentator outside Fox NOT saying that this war is destabilizing.
Let's see what we're all paying for basic goods and services over this summer to see if you're right. Also let's see what happens in Asia and the Pacific region economically and also with respect to agriculture vs. famine. Right now your crystal ball seems like cope.
Rep to Jo...
by JoFrance, Sunday, April 19, 2026, 19:27 (40 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
If the Pope felt he had to comment he should have said something like "let us pray for peace in the world". That would've been enough because he has no understanding of world affairs. He was scolding in his comments and it was political. He's a Chicago Democrat, I'm sure. In the end he doesn't matter, but Trump will always punch back against attacks from the left-wing machine.
The reason Trump went into Iran is to get their nuclear material and stop their nuclear weapon ambitions. When Iran bragged to our negotiator Steve Witkoff that they had enough material for 12 nuclear warhead missiles and wouldn't give up their nuclear weaponization ambitions, Trump decided to act to rid the world of this imminent threat from Iran. After 47 years of BS from Iran they only have a short window of time to agree to a deal, or else Trump will continue their naval blockade of Iranian ports in the Strait of Hormuz. Economically, it hurts Iran. Trump will continue bombing too if they don't give in.
Iran is different than North Korea in that it funds terrorism around the world. Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis were funded by Iran. It has destabilized the entire Middle East. The Arab countries approve of what the US is doing and want the US to finish the job. The Iranian people are thankful to the US for freeing them from the evil regime.
Of course its destabilizing, not only to America but also the world. The price and availability of energy affects every country. Two weeks after the war started, the cost of home heating oil soared to $4.95 a gallon from $3.79. That was on March 13. I knew there would be pain and don't like it but I don't think it'll be long term.
China will be very affected by the blockade of Iranian oil. Also, they lost Venezuelan oil. It'll be interesting when Trump meets with President Xi in China on May 15. I don't have a crystal ball so we'll see what happens.
I don't trust Trump any more
by Cornpop Sutton
, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Sunday, April 19, 2026, 21:16 (40 days ago) @ JoFrance
Let's chalk up the Pope issue as absolutely irrelevant. All it did was spotlight Trump's ongoing assholery.
I have no confidence there is any strategic plan or exit plan of any kind. Congressmen have stated the same. Trump's statements have directly contradicted each other. Nothing that Trump has claimed has been affirmed by the Iranians.
You have faith in Trump's supposed vision. I don't because I only see ego, braggadocio and posturing from the administration, combined with statements that never fit what the Iranian's response is. All we have seen are flip flops of basic facts.
After 47 years of BS from Iran
Much of it being posturing and hot air. Yes, punish them for being bad. Or are you one of those who say they've been two weeks away from a nuke for 47 years like that little slimy faggot Mark Levin?
they only have a short window of time to agree to a deal,
The Iranians have already played the clock out far longer than I figured they would.
Trump will continue bombing too if they don't give in.
We're running out of bombs. We're also running out of strategic targets. It now comes down to genocide.
Also, part of Trump's absolute bullshit has been to claim absolute air and sea supremacy. Then we had fighter jets shot down and boats being sunk.
For a country without any air defense or viable navy they sure punch above their weight.
Iran is different than North Korea in that it funds terrorism around the world. Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis were funded by Iran.
I do agree with that.
The Arab countries approve of what the US is doing and want the US to finish the job.
I've seen conjecture that Saudi Arabia wants the US to lose in order to reduce its power in the gulf.
The Iranian people are thankful to the US for freeing them from the evil regime.
We have no reliable reading on what the composition of Iranian regime support is, and the protester slaughter narrative has almost no reliable backing facts.
Besides all this:
A renewed air campaign is going to be bloody with a lot of our air force shot down and countless civilian deaths. The earlier campaigns have just scratched the surface.
Also China has indicated that it might take over Iran's uranium. Which adds to China's strength and makes the entire situation even more unnecessary.
My main point is that Iran probably has options available to it that blow anything the administration wants to do out of the water. Plus Iran has been threatened on a existential level. Iran is perfectly correct not to trust the western powers.
I don't trust Trump any more.
I don't trust Trump any more
by JoFrance, Monday, April 20, 2026, 19:50 (39 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
Of course there is a strategic plan and exit plan. Trump isn't going to say what it is, especially to Congress. They'll leak it to the media. Trump's ego, braggadocio and posturing is a tough guy act to intimidate Iran. He is dealing with the IRGC, who are a bunch of thugs. That is the language they understand. Flip flops and disinformation keeps them off-guard. They never know for sure what Trump will do.
After 47 years, missile technology has come a long way. Iran's missiles could reach Europe now. Sure, Trump could look the other way or appease them with money like Obama and Biden did, but after meetings with Iran and their arrogant attitude about their nuclear stockpile, Trump decided to act. I think he made the right decision for a lot of reasons but especially because they're crazy lunatics with the intent to use them. It would only be a matter of time before their weaponry could reach the US.
Trump has plenty of infrastructure targets to go. He would never even think about genocide. Saudi Arabia wants to join the war after Iran bombed their energy facilities. They want the US to succeed in getting rid of the Iran regime and its nukes. Trump doesn't want them involved at this point.
Iran is going down and they have no capability to go up against the US. Their country is in a shambles with no leadership. In order to salvage anything they have left they have to make a deal. I trust Trump will get the deal in the end. He plays hardball.
