Renee Good Shooting and Officer Ross's mental state

The one item that hasn't yet been mentioned in almost any coverage of this event is the mental state of the ICE officer (Jon Ross) who shot her -

And I don't mean "deranged", "scared", etc.

Cops are humans with limits of patience. Can you or anyone imagine serving in the capacity of an ICE with dozens to hundreds of shrill juvenile adult child libtards screaming taunts at you constantly and interfering with your job every single minute of your shift every single day?

These guys are probably tapped out by default, and this woman just begged for the worst case.

Jon Ross was almost definitely acting on pure adrenaline in the situation. The guy shot like a boss, pulling out his weapon in a split second and firing. To me this says the cop was acting primally by reflex and did so because he was placed in that situation.

I have yet to see even one commentator on Youtube mention this likely fact.

I think we can all - even the left - agree that Good's shooting was not a bad thing.

To the right - The officer was boxed into a life or death situation and shot reflexively.

To leftists - yay, we got another George Floyd type situation. Let's get more of us killed so we are entitled to riot even more!

Lefties love that they have a dead martyr, and more dead martyrs is what they want.

Yeah I saw someone on youtube say that. They went further and said that the officer that killed the driver had on a previous occasion been dragged 100 metres down the street by one of these protest cars. Apparently his arm got caught in the door.

If that is true, you can imagine what was going through his mind when this latest car moved at him. Not letting that happen again, is my guess.

Jon Ross did the only thing he could do in the situation he was in. He was in front of the vehicle and I think she hit him somewhat. It looked like he limped away after he shot her in self defense. It was a life or death situation for him. She could've run him over.

I don't know how any of the ICE agents take the daily abuse from the organized mob of libtards. Renee Good was part of an Ice Watch group. This is part of the AI explanation that explains her behavior:

Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother of three, was a member of an "ICE Watch" group in Minneapolis that monitored, documented, and resisted federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations.

These groups, often composed of community members, use tactics such as whistles, mobile apps, and barricades to alert residents and disrupt ICE activities.

Good reportedly received training through this network on how to interact with ICE agents, including knowing her rights, when to issue alerts, and strategies for non-compliance and resistance.

She was a leftie activist that went too far, but she's not the right color for martyrdom like George Floyd was.

I dislike lefties/libs/libtards/BlueAnon types and this one seems, based on the reported info about her and her background, to have been a real piece of work. Trying to "defend" illegals or aid and abet them in any way just makes her even more dislikable.

So it pains me to notice that the ICE guys surrounded her vehicle on at least 3 sides and the shooter was the one who rushed to position himself at the front of her vehicle.

By putting himself in that location, he created a plausible pretext for shooting her. So long as he was standing there, any indication of movement on the part of the driver could then be later justified as placing him in fear of his life and justifying firing on the driver. It's almost as if he had pretty much decided beforehand to shoot her.

By putting himself in that location, he created a plausible pretext for shooting her. So long as he was standing there, any indication of movement on the part of the driver could then be later justified as placing him in fear of his life and justifying firing on the driver.

I'm not even a "thin blue line" fan and I agree with this. That action gets cast by lefties as willfully careless by the officer but I was observing the distraction/heat of the moment issue. That's the other way of looking at it.

I read somewhere that ironically in 2020 Gov Waltz apparently signed a Minnesota law into existence that gave law enforcement the legal means to use deadly force against a suspect who disregards instructions and continues to drive their vehicle.

It's almost as if he had pretty much decided beforehand to shoot her.

That's arguable. I see what you're saying but I attribute his actions mostly to adrenaline and distraction from being surrounded by hostiles while doing his job. It would be really hard to focus for anyone in that situation and those circumstances would push someone over the edge to make a fatal decision that otherwise they wouldn't.

My feeling is that it was a justifiable shooting (meaning that the shooter wouldn't be convicted if it went to trial if there was even one non-poosay-hat-wearer on the jury) and that the driver was a leftarded NPC with a death-wish who got the sort of 'heroic' end she may have fantasized about in the abstract.

That's verging on mind-reading, which is poor form, but I'll indulge in a bit more borderline ESP here.

What seems more likely to you: (A.) the shooter who was reportedly dragged along with a moving vehicle in a prior incident totally submerged his memories of that event and was just a super-duper by-the-book guy who was, alas, a bubbling cauldron of unprocessed trauma or (B.) the shooter had mulled that experience over and decided that he would never get caught out like that ever again and had been practicing his quick-draw and marksmanship and mentally war-gamed/rehearsed what he'd do in any sort of future vehicle-related scenario and that was what he did that day?

For me, the latter seems much more likely.

The whole thing was a clusterf*ck IMO.

If Eisenhower could do Operation Wetback with punchcard-era computing (if any) and without Modern-Warfare-LARPers acting like paramilitary brigades, surely (given that the gubment is tracking/listening-in-on all mobile devices, intercepts and reads all electronic communications and phone calls, etc.) it would be possible to snatch up illegals in larger numbers than is happening now without the melodrama. The fact that the melodrama is unnecessary but is happening anyway gives me a queasy feeling.

He stood in front of the car.

When cops say "Stop the car and get out.", you stop the car and get out. You do not step on the gas. He stood in front of the car to prevent her from driving away, assuming she was a sane person who would not try to murder him.

Even if you're sure it's a wrongful arrest, once cops say "stop the car and get out", you stop the car and get out and let your lawyers argue about it later.

First off: Amen, brother. You're preaching to the choir. I'm not a "sovereign citizen" (or UK variant: "Kommon Lawr"/"Magner Karter") type. If law-enforcement officers demand that I get out of my vehicle, I'm getting out of the vehicle. Even if I think they are being meanies and are wrong. Day in court and all that. I wouldn't be bird-dogging LEO teams, obviously, or getting into shouting matches with LEOs.

Second off: I'm sure that you can see the very concerning difference between your local Officer Friendly who lives down the street and whose kids go to school with your kids, or even the state trooper in full uniform swaggering in and out of his very clearly marked official vehicle and what we are seeing here.

ICE moving around internally, far from the borders, in unmarked vehicles and with only the same level of official-looking uniform-y stuff and vehicle lights that I could order myself from Amazon. They're clad in tacticool camo and with shysties (aka balaclavas) or Punisher skull gaiters and shit like that and are operating like a bunch of Simon 'Ghost' Reilly wannabes.

We're seeing Problem, Reaction, Solution in real time.

One side tees up the Problem (illegal hordes via borders that varied from undefended to concierge-level welcome, a bunch of barbaric nationalities hoovered up intentionally using smartphone apps and flown in, given some gibs, and then set loose on 'parole', etc.) and gets the Reaction churning. The other side comes in with the "Solution" (panopticon surveillance, multiple overlapping LE agencies in plainclothes and unmarked vehicles engaging in ops deep inside the country, multi-pronged effort to push digital IDs, etc.).

It's not good. I am observing what's happening. Not offering solutions.

The ICE agents can't go around in cars clearly marked "ICE", because then the activists would easily harass them. These full-time professional activists follow ICE around all day harassing them.

You had four years of zero immigration restrictions or enforcement, completely open borders. Now we have the opposite extreme, max enforcement. Organized activists on the left are putting max pressure and harassment against ICE agents. They don't fear arrest because they know the courts are on their side. In the worst case, where they get arrested and then convicted, the next Democrat President pardons them on day one.

This is the natural end result of "zero penalties for harassing on-duty cops or government workers".

There is no way Trump manages to deport even 10%-20% of the illegals that were let in the past 4 years.

Makes you wonder if Ross, knowing all this, especially lack of deterrence due to inevitable pardoning of any miraculous convictions, pre-decided that if he gets a pretext for lethal force, he's gonna take it, because THERE'S a deterrent. Or maybe lots of agents have sorta decided this.

Palmer Eldritch already stated what seems to be the best guess:

The cop was traumatized (not PTSD level) by his earlier incident of being dragged by a car. And re-enacted the episode with a finale of quick drawing his weapon and firing. And practiced and practiced until it was a reflex.

This all happened quickly. No time to think about whether he's legally liable. He experienced a familiar danger and he went for it.

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