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Despite the awful state of the country under Democrat policies, they're again focusing on access to abortion as a way to win elections. It has worked for them thanks to Republicans trying to push austere abortion policies like a total ban on the procedure in some states. We're going to lose elections again if Republicans can't moderate on this issue.

Citizen Free Press got a copy of an internal memo from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee to "Interested Parties". Their first point is "WHEN ABORTION IS ON THE BALLOT, VOTERS TURN OUT TO DEFEND THEIR RIGHTS". They're right about that and that's why Republicans need to be more moderate on the issue.

https://dccc.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/4.5.2024-Memo-Abortion-Ballot-Initiatives.pdf

Trump is right. It's up to the states and no longer a federal issue. “My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint, the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both, and whatever they decide, must be the law of the land,” Trump said. Really, abortion should never be an issue when voting for president. I hope Republicans will follow his lead.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/04/10/report-democrats-fear-donald-trumps-abortion-position-wins-moderates/

What revoking RvW did was renew an enormous wedge issue that Dems can virtue signal about. Personally I believe most voters want that access universally and only a minority consider the country immoral for allowing it. Perhaps so but we have many more pressing national issues afoot than whether abortion access is a thing.

I wonder if he pushed for it deliberately since the midterms were coming up at the time and he knew that this issue would cost Republicans some elections in the House and Senate. He is supposedly a conservative but doesn't seem to be a fan of Trump. In other words, it wouldn't surprise me if he did it to make Trump look bad.

(Old Slashdot style repping)

Really perceptive! He was nominated by Obama. John Roberts also upheld the health insurance mandated penalty as a "tax". He hewed to the Democrat playbook there.

And the normies can't see that because the normies who are ideological about abortion in both ways (pro and anti) are up their own asses about the issue and desperately claw onto anyone who appeases them. John Roberts was seen as a hero for the overturning of RvW and to conservative right to lifers he gained trust that he probably didn't deserve.

Roberts could have done this specifically to re-energize the left. We could be seeing him as a Supreme Court "Manchurian judge".

All of this fits together like a fucking set of Lego blocks.

Thanks

For the record, Roberts was appointed by W but he might as well have been appointed by Obama.

Here's something else. I was listening to some small time podcast tonight and a guy mentioned that Congress is working on passing laws that restrict the power of the President. So instead of cheating and keeping Trump out of office, maybe they let him win and sandbag him so his presidency is irrelevant.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-government-lawyers-say-we-need-to-limit-the-president-s-ability-to-deploy-u-s-troops-at-home/ar-BB1lhqes

I think Roberts is a Never-Trumper and a RINO. You could really see where his loyalties lie after how he saved the ACA. A true conservative would not have done that.

Of course they'll try to restrict Trump's power, but he will find a way around whatever they try to do. Congress tried to prevent him last time from building the wall on the southern border but he redirected funds and was able to get 500 miles done despite that effort. He worked with Mexico to secure our border instead of Congress.

Trump could make life so difficult for the illegals that they'll leave on their own.

I wish the SCOTUS would've left RvW alone too. It was the law of the land for 50 years and by doing that they opened up a Pandora's box that hasn't worked well for Republicans. Now, the states decide but a lot of the more conservative states want to make it very hard to get an abortion. AZ Supreme Court now decided not to allow any abortion for any reason. If the decision isn't changed, AZ will likely become a bluer state based on this one issue.

Every Republican president has always promised to get rid of RvW, but never did it. Trump got it done, but it has undermined the Republican party ever since. At least it isn't a federal issue anymore.

Did not work at all here. He should have foreseen this and he fucked up royally by indulging the ardent right to life crowd which is a minority among voters.

I think Trump has excellent interpersonal instincts and animalistic intuition for dealing making and gaining tactical (not strategic) advantage. Which are not the same thing at all as long term strategies.

Oh well. He's the best we moron humans got.

RvW overturned is turning out badly for Republican candidates because removing RvW energized the left.

Besides that. Abortion is a wedge issue that detracts from reaching concensus on far, far more important things:

- The federal debt
- Foreign intervention (Ukraine, Israel/Hamas, Iran, Taiwan)
- The weaponization of the justice system and overtly differential prosecution
- Illegals and the side effects of same en masse

The right to lifers and fundie Christians are gonna help lose votes to the evil side. Regardless if abortion itself is evil.

It may seem evil to permit abortion as a "right".

However: if the US economy crumbles for whatever reason, or we get involved in a war, and medical services are impacted, then expect a return to coathangers if things get bad enough.

My view is that:

1) The public is largely convinced today that abortion is a human right. Nothing will change that except the Messiah returning.
2) Therefore give the public that right. The mother and the doctor themselves are culpable in God's eyes.
3) Now MOVE ON and defeat the left so we can get our country back.

That's the only solution. We have to move on and start talking about so many other things. I don't even know where to begin its so bad. The Inflation, the debt, the wars, the culture. I don't know how Democrats can defend what they've been doing with any of it.

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I prefer that Roe v Wade still stood

John Roberts

+5, Insightful

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+5, Insightful

I prefer that Roe v Wade still stood

Trump's alleged reputation for "4D Chess"

Here's another point about the abortion issue

Here's another point about the abortion issue