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Continuing the discussion about election aftermath (Public Board)

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Thursday, November 07, 2024, 19:23 (261 days ago)
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Thursday, November 07, 2024, 19:46

I don't believe we've seen the other shoe drop yet. By that I mean the reaction of the collective enemies of Trump still currently in power, either as politicians or as managerial deep state types.

The blowback from the left has been surprisingly weak. Some foaming at the mouth by the usual useful idiots like "The View" and Jimmy Kimmel and other somewhat powerless faggots and leftist mainstream media trash.

I want to observe something about this.

Trump's election, and PARTICULARLY his delegation of policy in the hands of four extremely smart and competent leaders who could act as president in their own rights (Kennedy, Gabbard, Vance, and Musk for starters) each with a slice of policy changes and agendas .... This is a tectonic shift in US political power.

Up to Reagan we had a normal bipartisan government. Beginning with Bush Sr we started having wars for their own sake, plus terrorism attacks here and abroad (Oke City, Columbine, 9/11, etc). and then massive direct intervention in and toppling of foreign governments.

(The US sure wasn't squeaky clean in its record before this. I'm unclear whether the US toppled the Shah of Iran's rule even tho we installed him, just to manufacture a new enemy.)

And we had the continuous assaults on Trump legally and physically going back to 2017.

We've had a globalist "new world order" US gov in place since GHW Bush (who happened to be farting around Dallas on Nov 22, 1963 for some reason) and continuing with Clinton, Bush II, Obama, and then Biden. An interventionist neoliberal and neoconservative power structure.

Trump makes the US revert hard away from neoliberal meddling and focusing on the welfare of the US.

I posit the following:

The disorder, violence and chaos that we've seen in the last 20 years in the US may well be a three letter agency effort to keep Americans undermined and suspicious of each other and the state. IE: The George Floyd riots were manufactured as an anti Trump, anti public interest element of chaos in order to make re-election difficult. I wonder if other public events such as Ferguson, MO and other places were concocted by the deep state to create constant sense of emergency.

Exactly like how the CIA sponsors "color revolutions" in places like Ukraine to unseat legitimate governments and promote its own interests.

Of course Jan 6 was instigated by the government - FBI agents + Pelosi refusing national guard protection of the capital.

(Ice Cube seriously insists that the CIA "invented" and promoted gangster rap.)

In short, riots happen because the deep state wants some outcome. I'm saying that in the US, protests and riots have seemed to coincide with something the "shadow" government wants to see happen. They often have sprung out of nowhere. As Rahm Emmanuel said, never let a crisis go to waste.

Notice that NOW we see NO general uprising against Trump's mathematically non-contestable win which we on this board expected. Dem voters mainly seem to be grumpy and isolated. In fact National Guard was deployed to the exact cities and places you'd expect riots. I believe this time the powers that be wanted quiet and peace.

None of us expected this much quiet after a Trump win.

I THINK THIS IS DELIBERATE. I SUSPECT SOMETHING MAY COME UP CLOSER TO INAUGURATION. I view the relative calm suspiciously.

The same deep state that tried to shoot Trump at least 3X is laying low, not betraying its plans, and planning something big that may create the argument for postponing the inauguration.

Such as:

- An actual major war (w Russia say).
- Some technical manipulation of the fed, such as tinkering with the money supply, to cause a sudden collapse of the stock market.
- Another pandemic rising to "plague" level (airborne ebola, etc)
- ???

All I'm saying is that the same bastard motherfuckers that have been around since Clinton in office, fucking with the stability of the US, STILL run everything behind the scenes and will still be around on January 20th.

This of course is pure speculation, Alex Jones level stuff. But he was right about most major things he predicted.

Continuing the discussion about election aftermath

by IT guy, Thursday, November 07, 2024, 22:50 (261 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Perhaps they are trying to get Trump and this team to lower their guard before blindsiding them with something.

BTW they're still counting votes in the House race. Before all is said and done, don't be surprised if the Dems take the House. Instead of cheating in the Presidential race, which was under great scrutiny, they may have cheated in some of the down ballot Congressional races instead. This would allow them to interfere with certifying Trump, who may be a "convicted felon" by then. Or attempt to impeach him as soon as he takes off. Or block much of his agenda.

Congressional Races

by IT guy, Thursday, November 07, 2024, 22:56 (261 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Look at how razor thin many of these races are (especially the ones leaning red):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/06/us/elections/results-house-races-tracker.html

Crazy that it takes this long to count votes.

Almost half of these races are in CA and Newsome basically declared war on Trump today.

https://www.aol.com/california-gov-newsom-calls-special-190609673.html

Apparently he is already kicking off his Presidential campaign.

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Your two posts

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Thursday, November 07, 2024, 23:14 (261 days ago) @ IT guy

Basically more or less what I was thinking, although you had a separate angle with the downballot house races which also seems pretty plausible. The idea being to disarm the public as well as the Trump team that things are happening legally and normally.

Your two posts

by IT guy, Friday, November 08, 2024, 00:15 (261 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Right. And with all the focus on Trump, it's flying completely under the radar. It looks like the Senate will likely be 52-48 instead of the 54 or 55 seats that were being talked about. They'll never allow Kari Lake to win in AZ.

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Congressional Races

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Friday, November 08, 2024, 01:01 (261 days ago) @ IT guy

Crazy that it takes this long to count votes.

It's a piece of piss. Each polling place counts its ballot papers (under supervision) and reports its count to its superior in the hierarchy (or directly to the central authority).

It's not hard. Do not accept anything less than a prompt count.

The Republicans finally hit 218

by IT guy, Monday, November 11, 2024, 23:20 (257 days ago) @ ,ndo

And they're STILL counting.

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The Republicans finally hit 218

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Monday, November 11, 2024, 23:44 (257 days ago) @ IT guy

Final official counts for all seats (or US "races") do take a while longer than a single evening. But the software technology these days is so good that accurate projections can be made on only a fraction of the count. IOW the same evening. Only in very tight contests do the vast majority of votes need to be counted and even re-counted to publish a reliable projection or result.

The Republicans finally hit 218

by IT guy, Tuesday, November 12, 2024, 22:58 (256 days ago) @ ,ndo

Seems that vote counting was faster when there was less technology involved.

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Continuing the discussion about election aftermath

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Friday, November 08, 2024, 00:57 (261 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Yes the Four Horseman look a bit like assistant presidents don't they. Prime positioning for future runs as POTUS should they so choose. Gabbard is young enough to run 20 years from now.

I have read (and I have no corroboration so I do not vouch for this) that the Judaists decided that Harris was more of a threat to their plans than Trump and so Trump was permitted to win. If this happens to be true then it could explain the lack of disorder when the election result became known. I myself was expecting more trouble than actually occurred.

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Continuing the discussion about election aftermath

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Friday, November 08, 2024, 01:26 (261 days ago) @ ,ndo

If you mean that Harris was vaguely anti-Israel yet pro-Gaza while still trying to pander to both Jewish and Arab sympathizing voters - and Trump is a stalwart Israel apologist/supporter - then yes, that is the sense I got from commentary and their own words. Harris was straddling the line and Trump was quite definitive about whom he supported.

People Voting Trump But Not Down-Ballot

by FSK, Friday, November 08, 2024, 14:37 (261 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

One thing that surprised me was the large numbers of people who voted for Trump, but not Republican in other races. For example, Trump won North Carolina, but a Democrat won governor.

I guess a valid explanation is there was that much anti-Kamala sentiment among people who would otherwise vote Democrat?

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I voted straight Republican down the ballot

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Friday, November 08, 2024, 14:53 (261 days ago) @ FSK

I now consider any Democrat, and particularly one who is a member of Congress, an existential threat to democracy and cleaning up the country.

IE: In Ohio I think Sherrod Brown (who is afraid of clowns :-D, it rhymes) as well as Greg Landsman in my district are actually kind of OK, but they become obstructors in Congress to doing what has to be done to restore balance and order to the US.

I voted straight Republican down the ballot

by JoFrance, Friday, November 08, 2024, 19:13 (260 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

There are no good Democrats anymore. They follow the party agenda and that is open borders, the green new deal and so many other ways to make your life worse.

I'm so happy Sherrod Brown was defeated. That's a big win for Republicans who are the only ones interested in putting America's interests first over globalism and their own power.

People Voting Trump But Not Down-Ballot

by JoFrance, Friday, November 08, 2024, 18:24 (260 days ago) @ FSK

The Republican in the NC race was Lt. Governor Mark Robinson. He was accused of posting sexual messages on a porn website and supposedly was registered on Ashley Madison. I don't know if that's true, but his campaign aids quit. That was the end for him, so the Democrat ran away with the governorship.

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People Voting Trump But Not Down-Ballot

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Saturday, November 09, 2024, 00:05 (260 days ago) @ JoFrance

Was he the black bloke with the powerful speeches a while ago?

People Voting Trump But Not Down-Ballot

by JoFrance, Saturday, November 09, 2024, 16:31 (260 days ago) @ ,ndo

Yes. He was a good guy and had an excellent chance of winning. It looks like possible Democrat sabotage to me.

People Voting Trump But Not Down-Ballot

by IT guy, Monday, November 11, 2024, 23:22 (257 days ago) @ FSK

RFK or Tulsi supporters maybe?

Continuing the discussion about election aftermath

by JoFrance, Friday, November 08, 2024, 19:58 (260 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
edited by JoFrance, Friday, November 08, 2024, 20:16

I think they lost in an undeniable defeat. They know they lost and so does everyone else. They're grieving and in shock, but they know they can always try to sabotage his presidency. If they even try it, it will only prove how despicable they really are.

Time's up for the deep state that are hiding out in our government. They took hold during the GHWB presidency in the early '90s. I so agree that before that we had a normal bipartisan government. I remember the GHWB speech in 2001 about the New World Order. I never thought much of it at the time but I get it now.

The Democrats have played every card they hold against him and Trump is still standing. They lost big and their old tricks won't work anymore. It'll only expose them more for the rats they are. I can't believe how these people have sold out our country without our consent.

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Their old tricks WILL work for the next 3 months

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Friday, November 08, 2024, 22:28 (260 days ago) @ JoFrance

We're not home free yet.

One specific: the stock market.

Jerome Powell was defiant about retaining his position when asked about Trump replacing him.

And yesterday the Fed lowered the interest rate another 0.25%. If interest rates keep getting lowered, the stock market will continue the bubble expansion... then by the time Trump is in office officially there may be no more room to lower rates. In the current stock market that would presage a collapse of asset values.

When it comes to utter destruction the current administration knows exactly what to do and is very, very good at it. And now they're motivated to dig in.

Their old tricks WILL work for the next 3 months

by JoFrance, Saturday, November 09, 2024, 16:58 (260 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Trump can't fire Jerome Powell, but maybe its time to audit the Fed. That is supposed to be done every year but it hasn't been for as long as I can remember. Trump is the one that originally appointed Powell, but maybe he might not want to go through that.

I'm sure they've laid quite a few traps to sabotage his presidency, but they will find out that Trump will play hard ball this time around. Already the FBI's Chris Wray is planning on resigning before inauguration day.

Their old tricks WILL work for the next 3 months

by IT guy, Monday, November 11, 2024, 23:24 (257 days ago) @ JoFrance

I read in one of his books years ago that when he's attacked then he hits back twice as hard.

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Their old tricks WILL work for the next 3 months

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Monday, November 11, 2024, 23:46 (257 days ago) @ IT guy

A reputation for that will prevent some potential attacks, which is of course the whole point of gaining the reputation :)

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