What are your predictions?

I'll go first. I figure it might go one of two ways:

1) There is no winner announced on Election Night. It will take days, weeks, or months to determine a winner. This gives them enough time to manufacture enough votes to put Harris over the top and she is eventually crowned the winner. They sentence Trump and Harris pardons Trump as a peace offering to throw him and his supporters a bone. The Republicans retain the House (and possibly take the Senate) so Harris gets little done.

2) Trump wins decisively and it's announced on Election Night. The Dems instead focus on manipulating a few of the down ballot races, just enough to take either the House or Senate in order to (figuratively) handcuff Trump. There is so much focus on Trump that there would be little outrage as the Dems take Congress instead. They still try to sentence Trump, block his certification, try to impeach, etc. Trump gets little done.

Those two outcomes prevent armageddon, which realistically isn't in anyone's best interest, keeps the fire burning (which generates a lot of revenue especially for media companies) and limits any "damage" the President can do. The powers that be might even be wary of Harris getting too uppity and trying to implement some of her most left leaning ideas.

I may be completely wrong, but not expecting either side to run away with it.

I've already pointed out that the Dems are loaded for bear to file state level lawsuits en masse to dispute any outcome that doesn't cater to their selected candidate. And likewise, the lessons of four years ago have hardened the Republicans to proactively file any and all possible lawsuits if the procedures seem fucky.

The attorney representing Harris's campaign has vowed to fight any non favorable outcome. I believe the republicans will think likewise.

The lawfare at this level for these stakes will rile up the masses on both sides and will piss everyone off. Let's just say that I am not displaying any Trump swag on our front yard this time, and I hid our concrete Trump lawn figurine in our back yard.

And there is plenty of ammo for lawsuits to be filed. Look up if you have not yet seen it - Lancaster County PA's DA has launched an investigation of 10s of thousands of fraudulent or "erroneous" mail in and early ballots that are not tied to identifiable natural people. This is probably happening a lot. That's one medium sized county.

I take that as a very bad sign that we're going to see more fraud this time than in 2020 or at least a higher effort to defraud. In 2020 we did not hear of such a blatant attempt to manipulate.

So I respectfully disagree with your premise that there will be a "glide path" to a relatively smooth and civil outcome. Emotions are just too high and both sides are committed to fighting at the highest level.

The issue of illegals voting in itself will be weaponized by the Republicans. The GOP will bitterly protest that all illegal votes are invalid and I don't think they will give that notion a rest without fighting. That is a new smear/shadow that will be cast over results that don't favor Trump.

The only way this MAY be peaceful is Harris winning by a landslide that can't feasibly be contested. Our side would tuck its tail gracefully if that were to occur.

Any other outcome will be a fight. Also look up Jamie Raskin on his comments on not allowing Trump to take office.

Hope I'm wrong. Really, I may be wrong and your "glide path to civility" may be correct, but we shall see.

There are a couple of idiot pubs in my town that are having election day parties on Tuesday. There is NO WAY I want to be in a public space around people who are being served alcohol when results start to come in.

I can say this here:

If Harris wins, the country gets exactly what it deserves.

And NO she will not be moderate. She will green energy, EV, DEI and woke the country into total faggotry. She's totally afraid to engage anyone at a high level. Obama will run her by remote control.

We will continue to see what we have seen before and are seeing now: the mammons will do anything and everything, whatever it takes to prevent Trump reducing their power. There is too much at stake.

I can definitely seeing it play out like this as well. I didn't mean to insinuate that it won't get crazy. It's a matter of how crazy it will get. That being said, whenever I think worst case scenario, it's usually turns out to not be nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

I suppose there is a chance that Harris wins decisively if enough men stay home and enough women flock the polls and put her over the top.

More than likely, it will be close enough to where the result is up in the air for days, weeks, or months. I suppose that even if Trump wins decisively, they'll contest it every step of the way.

One idea that I saw posted elsewhere is that the Dems may cheat but in Trump's favor, and then pin it on Trump's team and accuse them of cheating.

Based on what we see so far, urban Democrat voter turnout is way down by a lot in early voting in all the swing states. Republican voters are way up in early voting in all of those states. Even I voted early for the first time ever.

Republicans have traditionally always voted on election day so I expect they will tomorrow in droves. The same isn't true for Democrats which is why you see the desperate Obamas trying to shame their voters into showing up for Kamala. They don't look too pleased with their voters. They're scolding them in an act of desperation. The bottom line is they both know its a lost cause.

Kamala isn't suddenly loveable and popular for the first time in her life. Its all phony. People have to be bussed into her rallies so she has a crowd. She isn't a likeable person, she's a nasty bitch that just follows orders. She can't tell you her policies because she has to ask her deep state handlers first. What an awful person she is.

My gut is saying Trump wins and the Republicans win both houses of Congress. People are mad as hell about all the inflation and everything else under Biden/Harris and the Democrats.

Hopefully you are right. That's the way it has gone historically when the economy takes a nose dive.

I predict no/limited rioting. The only reason rioting worked in 2020 is that the police were ordered to stand down. That isn't happening this time.

Why do you say the police won't stand down this time

National guard mainly/exclusively have been deployed to liberal run areas and cities.

You don't read about National Guard being deployed to the middle of the country.

This indicates a desire to limit violence where it is most likely to occur.

I don't see the logic of "rioting" in DC if Trump wins. DC overwhelmingly votes Democrat. It wouldn't make sense to blame them for Trump winning.

Why does it have to make any sense? If it occurs rioting will be exactly like BLM... pure rage, just destructive tendencies. BLM burnt down NIMBY liberal businesses and homes just to express "the injustice of it all". It would be similar.

If rioting happens.

Relative calm one day after. All these preps, waiting for an apocalypse.

I'm glad to be wrong.

I think they're in shock. They really thought she would win and I have no idea why.

The BLM leader, Mark Fisher, endorsed Trump. Trump has a lot of black support because they're tired of the Democrat's empty promises, so they will not be rioting. Liberal women are taking it the hardest because they've been told Trump is a monster. The Democrats and the media lied to them about Trump in the most egregious way, even comparing him to Hitler. Some women take it to a new level

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I thank God that Trump won such a tremendous victory for the American people. I know he'll do a great job.

They can't play the riot card every time. People will get fatigued. My guess is the next scheduled riot is summer 2028.

The story of this election is Biden/Harris losing more than Trump winning. Biden was so out of it during the debate it didn't matter a single bit what Trump said. Harris was a really weak candidate who never would have won in a contested primary.

They knew Biden was senile. If they let him drop out in December 2023, there would have been a contested primary and a much better candidate.

I just observed a local non profit FB page (it is called "Bicycles for All", a worthy recycling effort) post that the US is backward and racist for not coronating a strong, empowered "black" woman as executive. I felt like posting "oh, so you are actually "Bicycles for Half of Us"?"

The average committed Democrat voter is to blame for this mentality. They are cult members promoting the racism card to anyone who will listen and those who won't.

I'm seeing that theme now and I hope it dies out.

If you're criticizing Kamala Harris, that's proof of your racism or sexism. If you're making a valid criticism, they'll always see it as racism.

This means DEI hires can never be held accountable for doing a poor job. It's more likely for them to do a poor job, because there's no pressure on them to perform well.

Since DEI favors identity over ability, DEI pretty much guarantees that less capable employees and managers wind up running things.

Not electing Kamala H was a near-miss for the US. Further institutionalizing the marxism of DEI would collapse the country faster than any other factor. We already grossly underperform militarily and industrially and have enormous costs built in to sustain the game. Trump and both Congressional houses going red will stall things from sliding farther.

If KH had been elected I would be buying gold like mad no matter how much the market fluctuates because I would expect the definitive end of the dollar within a year or two.

Buying physical gold is risky. Where are you going to keep it?

Safe deposit box at a bank? You aren't the only one with the key. If gold disappears from your safe deposit box, now it's your word against the bank. Good luck trying to recover.

Keep it in your home? Whenever you buy gold, you have to give ID, and they keep a database. There are rumors of criminals showing up to physical gold investor's homes, and they knew exactly how much was in their stash. Someone is tracking gold buyers and leaking the information to criminals. No matter how disciplined you are, you probably aren't going to hold out when criminals are holding your wife and children at gunpoint demanding your stash.

Kamala H could have selected Josh Shapiro Of PA as her running mate. The entire Gaza situation and the resentment of lefties against all Jews were the seeming reason he was avoided.

Instead she picked a guy that calls himself a knucklehead who added absolutely nothing beneficial to the ticket.

She's afraid of competent people who know what they're doing.

I bet with Shapiro as her running mate she might have closed the gap somewhat. He would have been far more credibly to moderates than Tampon Tim.

Kamala wound up pissing off both the Jews (for not supporting Israel enough) and the Muslims (for giving any support to Israel at all). She tried pandering to both and wound up with neither. The Jews voted Trump in record numbers. Usually, Jews are close to 100% Democrat. The Muslims decided to vote Green party instead of Harris in protest.

I don't think Kamala would've won even with Shapiro. He was a better choice, but he wasn't at the top of the ticket. Kamala was not qualified in any way to be president and that's why she lost. She had zero accomplishments after being VP for almost four years. As the border czar, she totally failed.

Part of me thinks she's relieved that she didn't win.

And who could blame him? He was likely was planning on running in four years. Walz may have been one of few feasible options.

It would've been a bad career move for him to be her VP. He's smart enough to know Kamala would lose because she is a very far left idiot who is lazy and knows nothing. He probably does plan on running for president in 2028, so that wouldn't work out.

Any man that would want to run as her VP is out of his mind, so that's how they ended up picking Tim Walz.

What they're saying publicly is that she didn't ask him to be VP. I wonder if he was asked and said no?

If he was VP and Harris lost anyway, now Shapiro is tainted with the stink of failure. Now he's free to run unencumbered in 2028, either for President or as VP.

And she very likely would have taken PA.....although it wouldn't be enough to win, which is strange to type given that they were saying it would come down to PA.

The guy resembles Don Rickles and I could see him being a member of a modern day Three Stooges. Just watching how nervous he was at the debate was comical, not to mention some of the stuff he was saying.

Tim Kaine (Hillary's VP pick) is another goofball. Saw a clip of him on Saturday Night live the other night and it was actually somewhat comical.

The third stooge would have to be more of a tough talking bossy type. Maybe Jerry Nadler.

Nuhyahhhh yahhh yahhhh (Moe drags him by the nostrils with a claw hammer)

Hmmmm! Wise guy!

Soitenly!

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Starring:

Jamie "Moe" Raskin

Bernie "Larry" Sanders

Tim "Curly" Walz

I think I matched physical appearance and personality/gestalt pretty well. :-D

LOL

Yeah....Crazy Bernie is a PERFECT fit! BTW he bashed the Dems for "abandoning the working class".

You would have to explain Jamie Raskin to me. I have never heard of him.

google news

https://apnews.com/article/longshoremen-strike-ports-dockworkers-agreement-86fac07d1189e11ca4816b2cbf37affb

DETROIT (AP) — The union representing 45,000 striking U.S. dockworkers at East and Gulf coast ports reached a deal Thursday to suspend a three-day strike until Jan. 15 to provide time to negotiate a new contract.

The union, the International Longshoremen’s Association, is to resume working immediately. The temporary end to the strike came after the union and the U.S. Maritime Alliance, which represents ports and shipping companies, reached a tentative agreement on wages, the union and ports said in a joint statement.

A person briefed on the agreement said the ports sweetened their wage offer from about 50% over six years to 62%. The person didn’t want to be identified because the agreement is tentative. Any wage increase would have to be approved by union members as part of the ratification of a final contract.

The union went on strike early Tuesday after its contract expired in a dispute over pay and the automation of tasks at 36 ports stretching from Maine to Texas. The strike came at the peak of the holiday shopping season at the ports, which handle about half the cargo from ships coming into and out of the United States.

The walkout raised the risk of shortages of goods on store shelves if it lasted more than a few weeks. Most retailers, though, had stocked up or shipped items early in anticipation of the dockworkers’ strike.

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What are your predictions? (Public Board)

Lawfare to the extreme

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Lawfare to the extreme