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Even if Trump Wins Decisively it will be Total Chaos: Mark Elias (Public Board)

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Saturday, October 19, 2024, 22:49 (280 days ago)
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Saturday, October 19, 2024, 23:57

Stop being complacently MAGA right now like your side has it all sewn up. Just stop it.

Mark Elias is a name that you can only find left leaning Dem favorable propaganda about and no real information on what he is up to now.

He was Hillary Clinton's attorney for her 2016 campaign.

Now read this part of his bio:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Elias

In 2020 and 2021, on behalf of the Biden campaign and the Democratic National Committee, Elias oversaw the state-by-state response to lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign contesting the 2020 presidential election results. Of the 64 cases, he won all but one minor case, which was later overturned in his favor. Elias was hired by the Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign to focus on potential recounts and post-election litigation.

Now THIS ONE ISSUE is REALLY hard to find information on. They are hiding his intentions in the media. The citizen lemmings are marching toward the election right off the cliff to their deaths.

This cocksucker is the one individual instrumental in blocking attempts made to audit election results by state in 2020. You want to know who coordinated the 2020 coup - this guy did.

One credible Youtube video I watched recently stated that Elias's firm is staged to file lawsuits against every swing state's election board in the event of a Trump win, in order to dispute the vote counts and methods and to tie up the count.

The Wikipedia article on him basically alludes to this without outright stating that he will do this. The notion I got from watching this is that he is poised to lawfare the election results into the ground unless there is an outright Harris victory.

Basically lawfare is going to tear this mother goddamned fucking country apart.

The idea of a Trump win makes me very happy but we're going to see the country melt down over this election, for real. And this info, including the role of this demon in the 2020 coup, has been obfuscated from the public. You have to read between the lines and listen to the right (leftist) podcasts in order to know. And the left isn't telling the right "there's a huge gotcha if you win".

My guess of near term (4 months out) outcome:

1) currency collapse (US government at actual civil war posture and unstable)
2) Martial law imposed in some areas with the election related violence. The violence would probably be within neighborhoods where residents know the political leanings of their neighbors and attempt to make points about the larger picture.
3) Legal system unable to function to anyone's satisfaction to resolve the election disputes. So military gets involved in order to support Trump taking office. Most senior military are still non commie faggots.

Check back later and make fun of my predictions, but I bet the magnitude of trauma to the system will be comparable.

Even if Trump Wins Decisively it will be Total Chaos: Mark Elias

by FSK, Sunday, October 20, 2024, 15:01 (280 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

most senior military are not commie faggots

From 2008-2016 and 2020-present, they've been hardcore purging non-commies from the military. You don't get to be senior in the military without many years of experience. There just isn't a pool of non-commies to pull leadership from, because everyone who fits that description has already been purged.

Unless Trump wanted to promote privates to general in 2016, he was stuck with commie leadership.

I don't think they'll go to civil war yet. They'll let Trump win but then block him at every step for 4 years like they did last time.

If there's a Democrat politician who wants to be President, they're better off with Kamala losing so they can run 2028 in an contested primary. If Kamala is the incumbent, she wins the 2028 primary uncontested and then they have to wait until 2032 to run.

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Would you expect the purge-ees to stay inactive?

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Sunday, October 20, 2024, 19:33 (279 days ago) @ FSK

I expect that recently and forcibly removed military are already capable fighters.

Would you expect the purge-ees to stay inactive?

by FSK, Sunday, October 20, 2024, 23:23 (279 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

They're capable fighters, but they aren't doing anything unless it goes to a hot civil war scenario.

Even if Trump Wins Decisively it will be Total Chaos: Mark Elias

by JoFrance, Monday, October 21, 2024, 19:36 (278 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
edited by JoFrance, Monday, October 21, 2024, 19:41

Marc Elias will undoubtedly use his lawfare tricks, but this isn't 2020. Back then, Republicans were unaware of all the ways Democrats would cheat. Now that Ronna McDaniel is gone from the RNC, the team of Michael Whatley and Lara Trump have filed about 100 lawsuits against various states when they try to get a cheat going in their state. They've only been there since March 2024. What they've done isn't perfect, but they've stopped a lot of it using the same lawfare tactics as Elias.

A big problem this time is illegals voting and mail-in ballots received from phony addresses, either domestically or from overseas. The RNC will keep suing if things don't look right, just like Elias and the Democrats do. Republicans were blindsided by the steal in 2020, but not now. All eyes are on the various ways the Democrat machine will try to rig the election.

No matter how the election turns out there will be chaos. I like Trump's goal of "too big to rig". I hope he's right and it turns out that way, but who knows what kind of hell we'll have to go through anyway.

My gut feeling is that Democrats are on a downhill trajectory. There is no real enthusiasm for Kamala and maybe a cheat wouldn't look credible, so maybe they'll just cripple a Trump presidency as much as they can. Its plan B.

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I hope our side is on it... learning curve

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Monday, October 21, 2024, 21:04 (278 days ago) @ JoFrance

It still astounds me that Mark Elias isn't as notorious among the right as, say, Karl Rove was among anti-Bush types. Definitely the demoncrats are keeping a super low profile on their "weaponry" so not even many allegedly well informed pundits mention his name.

I view Elias as analogous to Karl Rove in that they provide background support while not being actual targets.

Trump admits frankly in recent interviews that he didn't know anyone in Washington when he was inaugurated 2017, and obviously he isn't glued to Youtube for 16 hours a day like me, so he had no idea of the background or true intentions or character of anyone he hired into his administration.

The Democrats had one chance to ambush the voting process in 2020 - now we know exactly what they did. The learning curve of the GOP side is surely complete by now and they will act in as predatory a way as necessary, to fight evil with evil.

So hopefully, if we win, we actually realize the win, and Trump doesn't fuck up his nominations and appointments. No more Mark Milleys, no more John Boltons, etc etc.

I hope our side is on it... learning curve

by JoFrance, Tuesday, October 22, 2024, 19:56 (277 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Mark Elias is an unethical, evil slime ball but he does manage to stay below the radar. Karl Rove was shrewd but not evil like Elias. There is no lower creature on Earth than an unethical lawyer.

Trump was very naive to the ways of Washington during his first presidency, but he gets it now. In his first term he chose Pence as his VP (on the advice of Ivanka and Jared), and now he has J D Vance who is an excellent choice for VP. He campaigns just as hard as Trump and supports the Trump vision for the country. Trump made some horrible picks for the people closest to him, but there were some good ones.

The Democrats did ambush the 2020 election using mail-in ballots and Covid. Republicans now realize how clever they were at cheating to win the presidency. There are too many eyes on them now to pull off the same kind of cheating as 2020.

If we win I think Trump will pick people he can trust. He knows who his friends are after the past few years.

Even if Trump Wins Decisively it will be Total Chaos: Mark Elias

by IT guy, Tuesday, October 22, 2024, 23:05 (277 days ago) @ JoFrance

Or they'll work on some of the down ballot races so that the Republicans don't have a majority in the Senate and/or House.

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I hope our side is on it... learning curve

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 03:59 (277 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Similar to 2016-20, except an order of magnitude greater, there will be
Disloyalty, Interference, Resistance and Treason
should Trump and co be able to counterbalance election rigging.

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2024 US is a different country than 2016

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 13:00 (277 days ago) @ ,ndo
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 13:56

,ndo your theme is usually that the good "has to" prevail. As far as the US is concerned I don't see that as given.

Average Americans are angrier, more suspicious, poorer, less trusting, less community minded, and far more cynical than in 2016.

This election will be bloody just because there is only hate and the losing side, even in a decisive defeat, will accuse shenanigans.

And our economics and particularly the US debt makes the US vulnerable to outright collapse if events become toxic. I mean devaluation of the dollar to lows that make business impossible here.

Even the UK government is meddling in the election against Trump:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-files-formal-complaint-election-interference-against-uk-labour-party

I'll lose everything if the US melts down but I see total collapse as something we really truly deserve as a country. We embrace evil.

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