The words from both guys were what I expected.

What struck me the most about Walz was his total lack of poise and grace under pressure. When Vance was talking, Walz generally looked toward Vance like he was amazed and baffled. It wasn't a "you're goddamned fucking full of shit I hate you" look, it was an "oh holy shit, I have absolutely no comeback for these facts he's stating" look. He looked amazed that he was being owned.

Walz looked paranoid and uncomfortable. I compare him directly to Nixon's performance during the first TV debate with Kennedy in 1960. If you check out old news reels you'll see what I mean. Maybe not exactly the same kinds of presentation issues but the general vibe that the guy was totally out of his element. Nixon was sweaty and had a 5 o'clock shadow while Kennedy was Mr Kool.

Kamala Kneepads was far more poised in the debate at least as far as being a face actor to constantly ridicule Trump while he spoke. She's a fucking retard for picking Walz. She apparently selected the most communistic US hating piece of human garbage for the role.

And what amazes me about this entire debate situation is that Tim Walz is an "experienced" (probably fairly shitty) politician, likely with very weak political competition in his region.

Vance is a total newcomer to politics and has only been in the senate a couple of years. Vance gave a master class in dismembering lies and misrepresentations.