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Here's how the election will accelerate a civil war (Public Board)

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Wednesday, July 24, 2024, 14:59 (367 days ago)
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Wednesday, July 24, 2024, 15:06

It's being noted that there are thousands of illegals attempting to register to vote. There are recent spikes in the number of registration attempts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u4IuG9UcKE

I can see the following clearly:

- Heads being caved in at polling places in fights between angry MAGA and right wing types and suspected illegals. IE, voters may get harassed to say whether they habla ingles' and if they don't, they will be interrogated whether they are actual citizens or not. If they can't produce some ID they will be blocked from voting. Cops will be very busy.

- If the Democratic candidate wins, there will be an immediate civil revolt by right wingers at several levels: legislatures, local areas, and probably even in residential neighborhoods. It will be assumed that the vote was stolen by illegal voters. This will be a true constitutional crisis and will probably result in national martial law as well as partisan splits in the legislatures and the military. There would be a profound sense of hopelessness on the part of any patriot that things can't be remedied by legal action, so the right will become radicalized. Hell, I might even gather up a few bricks.

I don't see how it will be any other way. The left as tweaked and cornered the right for so long that the right will probably explode in tangible ways. We won't lose the country. We'll burn it to the ground if distrust remains high.

In my house we're getting mail in ballots. (Ohio's process is formalized for mail in voting.)

think so?

by IT guy, Thursday, July 25, 2024, 01:00 (367 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
edited by IT guy, Thursday, July 25, 2024, 01:04

I figured it would be the other way around.

If the Democratic candidate wins, people will grumble online but otherwise it will be business as usual. If Trump wins, the left (Antifa, etc) will burn it to the ground.

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Yeah

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Thursday, July 25, 2024, 01:13 (367 days ago) @ IT guy

Well, you could be right. No crystal ball available.

I did omit the case of a Democrat loss and there it is basically what you said. With the one advantage that protests and riots will be tamped down by the winning side (Trump).

What you stated is very FSK like. And he is generally correct.

I'm simply saying that if this election is stolen/lost, the right may lose its mind because of loss of all hope and commensurate anger. All of the now personal risks of what the Dems have done - massive amounts of criminal illegals on the loose, economy in November in free fall, and constant persecutions at all levels. Plus the Trump shooting reeks of agency involvement and execution. And the stolen 2020 election. There is pretty much iron clad perception that the US gov is hopelessly corrupt and is now stealing basically our lives.

It's never in 250 years been this bad as it is right now, and only one side is knowingly disadvantaged. (All citizens are disadvantaged by a Dem administration but the dumb assholes on that side think it's rosy.

I think a GOP general election loss will be the straw that breaks the camel's back finally. We may see slaughter of conservative uprisings by law enforcement. Hell, we may see about anything.

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Yeah

by Hillarys Colon, Thursday, July 25, 2024, 03:04 (367 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

I tend to think if the Right loses they will do nothing. I saw a lot of bullshit spewed what was going to happen if Biden was elected. In reality nothing except the Jan 6 thing which in the grand scheme of thing is nothing.

Now if the left loses its going to be full on Antifa with a repeat of 2020. Riots, racial animus, you name it.

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It's not about the voting, it's about the ballot papers

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Thursday, July 25, 2024, 03:08 (367 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
edited by ,ndo, Thursday, July 25, 2024, 03:12

- Heads being caved in at polling places in fights between angry MAGA and right wing types and suspected illegals. IE, voters may get harassed to say whether they habla ingles' and if they don't, they will be interrogated whether they are actual citizens or not. If they can't produce some ID they will be blocked from voting. Cops will be very busy.

These illegals won't be turning up to the polling place, their mail-in ballot papers will be collected by and filled in by and submitted by Democratic Party operatives.

That's how the Democrats got Biden in. That was their answer to the unexpected Clinton loss.

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Absentee voting is an absolute perversion of the voting process. Instead, a person absolutely must turn up in person to the polling place to cast their vote.

Yes, there will be some people who legitimately cannot present to the polling place on the day. People who are overseas. People who are incapacitated. The total number of these people is small and a legitimate voting process must guarantee that the percentage of absentee votes is small enough to not influence the overall election result. The US and the Aus Constitutions and the Constitution of any country which takes itself seriously as free must enshrine this principle.

Here, it is Commonwealth (national) law both that every adult citizen is on the electoral roll and that a citizen who lacks an exemption must present to a polling place on a Commonwealth election day (actually voting is optional but having your name marked off and receiving a ballot paper is mandatory). From the US point of view, the huge advantage of this particular setup is that bad-faith actors have no names on the electoral roll that they can use to "vote" on behalf of. In the 2020 US presidential election, millions of ballot papers were collected and filled out not by the person for whom the ballot paper was intended but by an operative who completed the ballot paper in favour of Biden. And thus, Biden got the most votes. Here, that is not possible.

Unfortunately, we are going down that road and the number of absentee votes is increasing markedly to the point where it is becoming significant in terms of being able to affect the overall election result. All sorts of excuses have been legislated in recent years allowing people to not present at a polling place on the day. Electronic voting has been trialled in recent elections and those trials will increase in size (NO!). People may vote fourteen days before the election day (NO!). People with the flimsiest of excuses may vote by post (NO!).

If Americans do nothing else, reduce mail-in voting to the barest reasonable minimum.

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