Why is USA's Covid Case and Death Rate Highest in the World? (Main Board)

by Pepe the Programmer @, Süm Fäggöt and Disloyal Actual Retard, Sunday, July 19, 2020, 14:59 (26 days ago)

(Yay, we're #1. MAGA!)

So why is this the case?

Thoughts? (in each case add the subtext "compared to other developed nations")

- Trump has been exceptionally inept in all pandemic related decisions?

- US residents are exceptionally filthy, careless, cavalier about social distancing, and lick doorknobs for sport?

- US health care is particularly inept?

- Our lockdowns ended too early and/or were not stringent enough or enforced well?

- We test for cases much more frequently than other countries did? (skews the numbers)

- Our society's physical mobility and the interconnectedness of the US compared to comparable sized regions around the world which usually have border restrictions or poorer transportation?

- (Related) Our states have wildly inconsistent implementations of safety measures, which prompts unsafe practices such as road trips to circumvent your current state's laws.

There has to be some Occam's Razor fact here, right?

I really don't get this. It's not 100% Trump's fault. He has been stupid in many of his pronouncements and has created false expectations numerous times. But those alone do not result in higher case counts.


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Here's One Video

by SureThing, Sunday, July 19, 2020, 19:46 (26 days ago) @ Pepe the Programmer

Texas Doctor Reverses Coronavirus Symptoms In 100% Of Cases With Inexpensive Treatment

Dr. Bartlett describes how he has been treating Covid-19 patients with 100% success rate using an inexpensive safe treatment that is commonly used for people with asthma.

It’s the same treatment that worked in crowded countries like Taiwan, Singapore and Japan who’ve had very few deaths compared to countries that locked down.

In the video, he said:

"In Taiwan, there are 24 Million people. There's not enough room for them to do "social distancing". Guess – how many of them died during the whole pandemic? Seven."

"It's the same situation in Japan. 121 Million people in Japan ... less than 1000 people died."

"Singapore – only 12 people died."

"Those nations are doing what I'm doing. It's not hydroxychloroquine (although that works). They're using an inhaled steroid – called budesonide.


How Sweden did better

by SureThing, Sunday, July 19, 2020, 19:53 (26 days ago) @ Pepe the Programmer

Why Sweden Succeeded in “Flattening the Curve” and New York Failed

While Sweden's death toll is indeed substantially higher than neighbors such as Finland, Norway, and Denmark, it's also much lower than several other European neighbors such as Belgium, the United Kingdom, Italy, and Spain.

If flattening the curve was the primary goal of policymakers, Sweden was largely a success.



Looks Like Sweden Was Right After All

Sweden settled on a policy that they thought was both sustainable and would save as many lives as possible. They weren’t trying to ‘show anyone up’ or ‘prove how smart they were’. They simply took a more traditionalist approach that avoided a full-scale lockdown. That’s all.

But that’s the problem, isn’t it? And that’s why Sweden has been so harshly criticized in the media, because they refused to do what everyone else was doing. They refused to adopt a policy that elites now universally support, a policy that scares people into cowering submission. The Swedish model is a threat to that approach because it allows people to maintain their personal freedom even in the midst of a global pandemic. Ruling class elites don’t want that, that is not in their interests. What they want is for the people to meekly accept the rules and conditions that lead to their eventual enslavement. That’s the real objective, complete social control, saving lives has nothing to do with it. Sweden opposed that approach which is why Sweden has to be destroyed. It’s that simple.

Sweden is rapidly approaching the endgame which means that restrictions can be dropped entirely and normal life can resume. They will have maintained their dignity and freedom while the rest of the world hid under their beds for months on end.


How the Chinese did so badly

by SureThing, Sunday, July 19, 2020, 19:56 (26 days ago) @ Pepe the Programmer

How the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) covered up the coronavirus outbreak

A very good history of the Covid-19 outbreak. Here are some quotations from the video:

According to VeriFlight, scheduled international flight services from China did not face a significant drop-off until March 30, 2020, while scheduled domestic travel was severely limited as early as February 9, 2020.

Why would the CCP hide the human-to-human transmission, and then allow people to travel abroad?

An expert on the CCP said:

"The CCP always takes its political power as the most important thing. It also takes economic operations as extremely important, since economic operations guarantee social stability [inside Chine], and thus guarantees its political power. So in this process, the CCP let international flights continue their travel ... to give the world a false appearance of stability, guaranteeing multinational companies would stay inside China. And to the whole world, the CCP gave people the false impressions that it could control the epidemic and the situation. That was to avoid all of its foreign investment from vanishing, and all of its businesses from going into upheaval. So, in this situation, the CCP did not order international flights to close down. On top of that, on January 31, 2020 ... the CCP was aggravated after Trump ordered a temporary ban on Chinese air travel. The [Chinese] foreign ministry issued criticism. This shows that the CCP takes economic profit as more important than human life. That's not just saying it doesn't regard Chinese people's lives, but the CCP doesn't care about any lives in any country of the world."

The reporter continued:

" ... there are practical reasons for their [CCP] silence, like keeping up appearances so foreign investors won't get scared off. As to whether they had other more sinister intentions, such as spreading the virus to the entire world, we don't really know for sure."

"The Associated Press (AP) obtained a four–page intelligence report from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, dated May 1, 2020. According to that report, Chinese leaders intentionally concealed the severity of the pandemic from the world in Early January. While doing so, the increased imports and decreased exports of medical supplies. The CCP attempted to cover this up by denying there were export restrictions ..."

"... Christmas Eve ... Vision Medicals, a Chinese genetic tech company ... made a critical discovery. They received a fluid sample from a patient in Wuhan ... contained a SARS like corona virus similar to the 2003 virus – 81% similar ..."

"On December 27, 2019, the lab relayed the test results to the Wuhan Central Hospital over the phone. They also shared the nearly complete gene sequence with Institute of Pathology and Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences. Researchers described the virus as a bat-like SARS corona virus."

"On December 30, 2019, researchers went to Wuhan in person to report the findings ... to leaders of the Wuhan Central Hospital and Wuhan Disease Control center. The next day, a lab researcher received a phone call from a Hubei Provincial Health Commission official ... who ordered that existing lab samples must be destroyed, the lab was forbidden to study new samples from Wuhan ... Any existing analysis, papers or data cannot be shared with the outside world. Finally, any future findings must be reported to only the government."

"On January 5, 2020, the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center ... confirmed a new form of SARS that had never been seen before ... reported this to both the Shanghai and National Health Commissions ... similar to SARS ... suspected it was airborne ... recommended public areas undertake safety measures ..."

"But just like the Doctors' warnings from before, both government entities ignored the information and warnings. After a week of no response from any government body, the team from the Clinical Center ... published the full genome sequence online. This was the first time the rest of the world could see the full virus genome. The team's research library was shut down the following day. Chinese top medical authorities expanded the ban to all of China as early as January 3, 2020."

"What can genome sequences reveal? Why were the Chinese authorities so determined to destroy the genome sequences and samples?"

Steven Hatfill, a former researcher for the U.S. Army, said:

"... the genome sequence ... lets you make an estimate of when the new strain appeared. It's called a molecular clock."

The reporter continued:

"University of Cambridge researchers ... the outbreak appears to have started sometime between September 13th and December 7, 2019."


The Government is Lying about the number of Covid-19 Deaths

by SureThing, Sunday, July 19, 2020, 20:13 (26 days ago) @ Pepe the Programmer

James Corbett predicted that the official Covid-19 death rate would increase, thereby giving politicians an excuse to lock down the economy again, even if the real death rate didn't increase.

I posted a message about it in this forum, which has a link to Corbett's video:



Here's a British article about the lies.

NHS Consultant Says Staff Are Being Silenced Over COVID19

First published on The Bernician, the below statement is allegedly from a senior consultant working for the NHS in a hospital in Surrey.

Although we cannot verify his or her identity, we still think our readers should see it

1) because it dovetails with other verified reports, and
2) if it is what it alleges to be, it sheds concerning light on the state of things inside the healthcare system.

The anonymous consultant said the following:

I am a consultant at a major, regional hospital in Surrey.

[Due to the consequences] I cannot reveal my identity at this time but wish to state as follows:

In my opinion, and that of many of my colleagues, there has been no Covid Pandemic, certainly not in the Surrey region and I have heard from other colleagues this picture is the same throughout the country.

Regarding death certification. All staff that are responsible for this have been encouraged where possible to put Covid-19 complications as reason for death, even though the patient may have been asymptomatic and also not even tested for covid. I feel this simply amounts to fraudulently completed death certificates and has been responsible to grossly inflating the number of Covid deaths.

The fact is that regardless of what you actually die of in hospital, it is likely that Covid-19 will feature on your death certificate.

There are many good people in the NHS and whilst I do not plead forgiveness for myself, I do plead for them. Most are on low pay, they joined for the right reasons and I did and have been bullied and threatened that if they don’t ‘stay on message’ they don’t eat. I know that if a way could be found to assure staff within the NHS of safety against reprisals, there would be a tsunami of whistleblowers which I have no doubt would help end this complete and brutal insanity.

I am finding it increasingly hard to live with what I have been involved in and I am sorry this has happened.

To end, I would simply say this. Politicians haven’t changed, the country has just made a fatal mistake and started trusting them without question.



Looks like you covered a comprehensive answer

by Pepe the Programmer @, Süm Fäggöt and Disloyal Actual Retard, Sunday, July 19, 2020, 23:29 (26 days ago) @ SureThing
edited by Pepe the Programmer, Monday, July 20, 2020, 00:44

Answer, Stanza 1: non existent approaches to treatment and prophylaxis

It appears that any treatment or preventative isn't discussed openly in a coherent way. Only pharma industry mega-projects worth billions such as vaccines are discussed. And the media as well as the government says absolutely NOTHING about prophylactic measures you can take such as vitamins.

HCQ is totally off the table because it's associated with Trump, and stupid leftist retards who hate Trump report everything in the media.

Anything that isn't engineered at mega-cost specifically for Covid isn't mentioned.

And the press is too stupid and deep state focused to ask the right questions.

So budesonide isn't mentioned much - it's a geek topic.

Nothing whatsoever is said by top or local officials in ANY way about the role of vitamins or supplements: C, D3, Zinc mainly.

Stanza 2: Herd immunity not mentioned at any level as a possibility, and the US lockdown response does the worst possible job of creating herd immunity.

(The "covid parties", assuming they are a real thing and not an astroturfed news story or disinformation, may be an instinctual way of dealing with the virus by creating herd immunity.

Stanza 3: The Chinese "miracle" is a total lie because human life does not factor into China's political or economic actions. And all clues indicate that the virus was engineered in China. Only dumbass lefties appear to believe China's numbers or the efficacy of their methods.

Stanza 4: The government is fabricating the gravity of the crisis by skewing statistics and deliberately misattributing deaths to Covid. What I think of here is all of the weeping and outraged medical professionals that go on interviews and exhort how real the epidemic is. A lot of testimonials seem to be astroturfed for the human angle.

Personally, I know one person in my community whom i believe contracted Covid in the early spring, recovered, and still suffers side effects and poor health from it. She got massively sick, but survived. The medical support she got was ridiculously stupid and cruel.

In addition, the implementation of policy is so bad because of Trump. (items #1, #2, #4 to a lesser extent)

Trump isn't intellectually adept enough to understand any of these issues (except perhaps for the rapaciousness of the Chinese regime, and he does understand greed) so he has completely lacked the information to steer the US response in the correct direction. Donald Trump simply doesn't have the brains to have his own discernment about the issues of what you tell the public as a coherent message.

Therefore you have administration officials taking the lead and creating bad policy, because the boss doesn't know shit.


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