Scott Adams is predicting a coup (Main Board)

by Grumpy Old Git, Friday, June 19, 2020, 13:44 (23 days ago)

Scott Adams is predicting a coup...

He thinks that:

1) Trump voters are lying to pollsters about voting intentions due to a credible fear of hacking and doxxing followed by being cancelled (loss of job, income, house, wife, kids, etc.)

2) Trump will win the election by a landslide.

3) The Dems will claim vote rigging, citing polling data showing Trump couldn't possibly have won.

4) Supported by all mainstream media, AntiFa, BLM, useful idiots, corporations, illegals etc. the Dems will stage a coup.


Game over.

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Scott Adams is predicting a coup

by Pepe the Programmer @, Süm Fäggöt and Disloyal Actual Retard, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 01:13 (23 days ago) @ Grumpy Old Git

That will be plenty autistic enough for me.

That is very, very forseeable based upon past and current behaviors.

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He's a bit slow

by ,ndo, Shit for brains, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 05:46 (23 days ago) @ Grumpy Old Git

An attempted coup has been in progress since Inauguration Day, pretty much. The oligarchs will not stop until Trump is gone. Like the Terminator. Relentless.

I'm intrigued as to what will happen in 2024 or 2020 or other time when Trump is actually gone. Memory hole? Will the news media and social media pretend 2016-202x never happened?

Actual not attempted

by Grumpy Old Git, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 07:01 (23 days ago) @ ,ndo

He's predicting it WILL take place.

Not an attempt.

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Actual not attempted

by ,ndo, Shit for brains, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 08:00 (23 days ago) @ Grumpy Old Git

So you mean he's saying the attempt will be successful?

Interesting but I disagree. Re your point 3, voters could record evidence of voting on voting day eg massive queues fully decked out with Trump regalia. Photos and videos along those lines would support a claim of Trump support and weaken a claim of rigging done by Trump.

Link?

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Actual not attempted

by ,ndo, Shit for brains, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 08:15 (23 days ago) @ ,ndo

On top of that, Adams mentions no mechanism (or at least you didn't include it). What, Democrats claim the election result is bogus and on that basis declare martial law? I don't think there is any authority given to them to do that. Nor do I think there is any legal path from "my opponent rigged the election" to "I'm the president-elect, not my opponent". Which leaves only the unlawful or illegal paths. Such as a military coup. And I doubt the anti-Trump faction of the military has the raw numbers nor the people in the right places at all levels to overcome the pro-Constitution members of the military. I don't think an attempted military coup would get off the ground, let alone succeed. So I'm not sure what Adams is smoking. And he's pretty smart. He was on to Trump's methods before anyone else.

I think the oligarchy's best chance in the US is precisely what it's doing now: attack from all directions, relentlessly, until Trump is gone.

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I agree with Scott Adams... and the video link

by Pepe the Programmer @, Süm Fäggöt and Disloyal Actual Retard, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 12:28 (23 days ago) @ ,ndo
edited by Pepe the Programmer, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 17:16

Apparently Git is referencing this video from Dilbert's dad, at approximately this time point:

https://youtu.be/LJDTACHQymI?t=1212

I agree with what Grumpy is saying. Scott Adams means actual successful removal from office and probably by force. NOT simply one of the processes that we've already seen that cause an impeachment like process that terminates in no action after months of inquiry.

Debating ,ndo now:

On top of that, Adams mentions no mechanism (or at least you didn't include it). What, Democrats claim the election result is bogus and on that basis declare martial law? I don't think there is any authority given to them to do that. Nor do I think there is any legal path from "my opponent rigged the election" to "I'm the president-elect, not my opponent".

I'd hope for what you state but the key word in your comment is - "legal" path. I don't agree that it will be as procedural as you state.

Why: US law is incredibly complex, and "the resistance" finds effective and surprising ways to use the complexity to their advantage.

Also, with enough mutual sympathy, a Democrat lead house or senate could probably concoct enough sympathy within other parts of the government and/or the military to make an extra-legal removal of Trump happen successfully. All it would take would be some well placed John Brennan or James Comey type fellatio artists to assist and legitimize extra legal action.

The law and legal process has already broken down monumentally with the FISA abuse and other crap. It's not far fetched at all from present reality - actually quite consistent - to allow for something not legally proper but with huge backing of a large part of the government, press and the misinformed public. With hedge words such as "in this unique time in history, we must suspend mandated procedures in order to cope with the Orange Menace."

As proven historically during Trump's presidency, the left is exceptionally nefarious about finding SOME means to create a rationale for removal. Even if the removal doesn't succeed, they are very very good at creating narratives that a wide swath of the stupid public blithely accepts as revealed truth.

Impeachment went on FAR longer than I or anyone else expected. The rationales hung on for many months longer than I ever thought possible even when there was no case whatsoever. There were also several other mini events that didn't achieve any momentum for removal which generated a lot of press.

All it would take would be both houses of congress to go blue next election, seriously.

And the article 25 removal option really was never explored seriously IMO. That could come.

There are probably some other mechanisms that were never explored before this that some Dem would research and develop into a case.

Democrats basically hack the law for their own purposes. They are magicians of corruption. The Democrats are to legal process what Horrorwitz is to message boards.

Do not place a lot of faith in the rule of law in the US as it stands today. The rule of law presumes good faith from enough parties to cancel out and prevent massive corruption. We don't have anything approaching good faith today from most of the government.

IMO anything could happen in the climate we've been in because it already has. Trump's enemies are all insane sociopaths. Anything is possible.

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I don't agree with Scott Adams.

by JoFrance, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 19:40 (22 days ago) @ Pepe the Programmer

I disagree with Adams. Unless the Dems win back the Senate, I don't think a coup is possible. The polls in the 2016 election were incredibly wrong, so why would they have credibility now? Does anyone believe Joe Biden is ahead when only 20 people showed up at his latest townhall? He's mentally unfit to hold any office and they all know that.

Antifa and BLM riots were meant to bait Trump into using the military to stop them. He didn't take the bait. Instead he is highlighting the failed Democrat leadership in the states and cities that allow them to exist. He let the Democrat leadership in the states and cities own the Covid-19 response. They have proven they are authoritarians and incompetent. Totally unprepared.

The Dems will continue trying to get Trump, but they're running out of time before the next election. They may lose the House and Senate. Its not like the Dems have done anything for their constituents. They're just consumed with getting Trump and he has successfully driven them totally crazy.

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Scott Adams probably included outside the law action

by Pepe the Programmer @, Süm Fäggöt and Disloyal Actual Retard, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 20:34 (22 days ago) @ JoFrance
edited by Pepe the Programmer, Saturday, June 20, 2020, 20:46

I still believe that he's assuming (which I agree with) that the Trump opposition will resort to ANYTHING, which includes extra-legal "emergency" process.

Remember how far the house impeachment got, based completely on info gathered from illegal wiretaps, FISA warrant approvals, and opposition research that got promoted into reality by being shopped to news networks.

Illegal activities were channeled into a strictly legal process that, if played out to the conclusion sought (removal) would not have been questioned in a meaningful way by anyone. If we had had a blue Senate we would have President Pence now.

The same pattern could repeat. I see the law as a set of perverse Lego blocks that some freak can assemble into a Predator alien if they like.

Maybe it won't be direct removal. Maybe somehow his presidency will be poisoned by some "legal" actions taken that neuter his executive power and then his presidency will be terminated pro forma as a result of that.

I don't think it has a high chance of succeeding but I expect there to be a frenzy of opposition action at very high governmental levels to exercise these options, when he is re-elected.

I believe the country will see events right after his re-election vote tally that actually frighten us all. More than everything that's happened so far this year.

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Scott Adams probably included outside the law action

by JoFrance, Sunday, June 21, 2020, 20:39 (21 days ago) @ Pepe the Programmer

Most definitely the Trump opposition will resort to anything to get rid of him, but No Nads knows he can't do ship without the Senate, which he says is full of corrupt Republicans.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/503776-nadler-says-calls-to-impeach-barr-waste-of-time-because-of-corrupt-gop

They'll keep trying because they have no shame and have a lot to hide. They aren't above assassination as a last ditch effort.

If Trump wins reelection all hell is going to break loose in this country. Maybe it will trigger Martial Law. I don't think Biden will win, but if he did there might be the same thing anyway. These are definitely scary times and I think we're going to have to fight for the country at some point in the next few years against the communists, marxists, etc., that want to destroy our way of life. Who would have ever thought America could come to this?

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